SierraLea wrote:there is some merit to actually saying stuff out loud, but the difference is about you, not God.
For example, if you breeze through the Our Father in your head, you might not notice the things you would have if you'd said it out loud. For example, when I say this prayer out loud I am struck by how many t's there are in the part about temptation. Look at a lowercase t. It's just like a little cross, like God wanted to lead us away from this so much he put these little reminders all through the word. Or listen to how many breathy sounds there are in the first part, which talks about Heaven and God directly. Breath used to be synonymous with the word for spirit, which links up to the Holy Spirit. These different sounds are something I wouldn't have picked up on as much if I'd just been running it through my head and not actually sounding out each individual sound and increasing its potency.
This is just me, though. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this.
Nate wrote:Personally I would avoid any books by Joel Osteen...while I'm glad it helped you out, he's one of the biggest proponents of prosperity gospel, which is one of the biggest heresies that exists in the modern world.
ClaecElric4God wrote:You're frustrated because you feel stuck, and you feel like God wants you to speak certain aspects of your life into modification (i.e., you say "Self, be more thrifty", and because of your abounding faith, you're suddenly financially stable; or you say, "I will be more extroverted", and suddenly you have tons of friends and are engaged). And you feel like this is what God wants because nothing else is working for you and you don't have a job or friends. Am I right?
Simply put, this "speaking stuff" doesn't work, at all. There's prayer, faith, and action. If you really truly think you're stuck and there's nothing you can physically do, then pray about it, and put it in God's hands. Honestly, that's what you should be doing anyways, but you should also be willing to face these issues and do your best in spite of them. Don't go into this weird mystical speaking your desires into existence stuff.
Just do what you know to be right, keep praying, and trust God to handle the rest. And NO, that doesn't mean sit around and eat popcorn while you watch God do epic stuff. You need to participate, and keep working to strengthen your relationship with Him. While you're sitting around complaining about not having a girlfriend and how bad you are with social skills and all that, you have an amazing, loving, powerful, awesome God Who's waiting for you to notice Him. Maybe He'll bless your relationships with the people around you when you honor the most important one you have, don't you think? You're running in circles here, and every round, you're missing the big picture. God doesn't want you to speak stuff into working out for you. He wants you to trust Him, and wait for Him to reveal His perfect plan for you. Even if that means sitting around and feeling stuck. Maybe you're feeling stuck because God can't do anything with you while you're running around like a headless chicken crying "woe is me".
NIV - Mark 23:12-14 wrote:12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
NIV - Mark 23:20-25 wrote:20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi, look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. 23 “Truly[f] I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. 25 And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.” 
Xeno wrote:The moving mountains thing was never intended to be literal. That was figurative language used implying that having small faith can give someone the strength to overcome large obstacles. "Speaking" to your mind and finances isn't going to do anything to them without you changing your state of mind/thinking and trying to budget your money better. Everything falls back on you to accomplish. The idea that you can "speak" to a situation and have it changed is pure prosperity gospel/evangelical/charismatic hogwash and is not actually supported in your bible.
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