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Elfen Lied...

Postby Jigzy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:12 am

So I have never watched any Anime as horrible as this one in my entire life, my very first bloody, gory type Anime, but it looked so interesting that I just had to watch it. Whew! It was SO SCARY! I am not going to watch anymore Anime in this genre again for a while unless it doesn't have that many episodes like this one did or I see some characters in it that like. For example Lucy I thought she was very cute and it made me wanna watch it. So this is just really my very least favorite Anime genre of all. So has anyone of you ever watched this Anime? But the main question I really have is how do you even pronounce this Anime title? I know how to say "Elfen" but I had always thought that you pronounced "Lied" like when you say that you lied to someone. Is that really how you pronounce it or is it pronounced like "lead" like to lead a chorus or is it pronounced like "Lee-ed"?
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:32 am

It'd probably be "lead" as in chorus, given that it's German.

I thought the anime lacked most of what made the manga interesting, and I wasn't a huge fan of the manga.
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Postby Falx » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:55 am

uc pseudonym (post: 1593286) wrote:It'd probably be "lead" as in chorus, given that it's German.

I thought the anime lacked most of what made the manga interesting, and I wasn't a huge fan of the manga.


It's "leed" but the "ee" sound is a bit shorter. It means song.

http://translate.google.co.za/?hl=en&tab=wT#de/en/lied

You can use the speaker button to hear the pronunciation.
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Postby GeneD » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:59 am

As best as I can describe it: the "ie" sound is a short i sound like the "y" in "city" and the "t" is a hard t like the "t" in "tick".

EDIT: Or just follow Falx's link.
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Postby Falx » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:04 am

GeneD (post: 1593289) wrote:As best as I can describe it: the "ie" sound is a short i sound like the "y" in "city" and the "t" is a hard t like the "t" in "tick".

Or just follow Falx's link.


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神はそのひとり子を賜わったほどに、この世を愛して下さった。それは御子を信じる者がひとりも滅びないで、永遠の命を得るためである.

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Postby goldenspines » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:40 am

Falx (post: 1593288) wrote:It's "leed" but the "ee" sound is a bit shorter. It means song.

http://translate.google.co.za/?hl=en&tab=wT#de/en/lied

You can use the speaker button to hear the pronunciation.
This.

I sadly couldn't find the speaker in order to hear the German pronunciation, but I'm going to assume (from GeneD's post) that the Japanese pronunciation interpreted it well from the German. The Japanese spell it as "Ri-to". ("Leat") Though, since "to" can often sound like "do", a lot of people think it's "Ri-do" ("Lead") when they hear it.


Note: R's in Japanese sound like a mix of L and R (more like L, actually), hence my weird spelling switches while trying to be accurate.
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Postby KnightOfFive » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:14 am

Well certainly can't blame you for that reaction. I mean the series is jarringly and gratuitously gruesome (The Manga is even worse in that respect from what I hear) and Lucy, well let's face it she's a mass murderer protagonist who butchered a little girl simply because said girl's brother lied to her. And the real kicker? She's not even (necessarily) the worst monster in the series(contending with a rapist/sadist scientist and a sadistic soldier). And Kouta's little more than a bland covert pervert. Not really much to like their either. Not really a loveable cast.

Except for Nana of course:n_n: Gotta love Nana.
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Postby Maokun » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:53 am

If you'd like a series with slightly similar themes and treatment but much, much less gruesome, try Mahoromatic. :)
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Postby KnightOfFive » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:12 am

I second the notion.
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Postby KnightOfFive » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:24 am

If only because of Mahoro.
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Postby Jigzy » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:06 pm

So then "Lied" is suppose to be pronounced like "Leat" not "Lead"?
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Postby KnightOfFive » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:39 am

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Postby HetalianKatana4 » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:31 pm

I have heard from a friend about this anime and she only watched the first episode due to violence...and she's a horror movie fan! Anime I think goes on a different level of gorey and violence though. It can get deep. I've seen pictures of Lucy and let me tell you, seeing the disturbing difference between her sweet self and murderous self is utterly...well, disturbing lol I have watched a different horror anime called "Another". I'm not a horror fan at all but I read about the plot and couldn't resist. Kinda scarred after seeing a guy slash himself with a kitchen knife and a girl getting stabbed in the neck with an umbrella but the story was awesome. I loved the mystery behind it plus I loved the main guy and girl :) Would watch it again but I don't want to watch the gore all over again
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Postby Jigzy » Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:12 pm

HetalianKatana4 (post: 1593452) wrote:I have heard from a friend about this anime and she only watched the first episode due to violence...and she's a horror movie fan! Anime I think goes on a different level of gorey and violence though. It can get deep. I've seen pictures of Lucy and let me tell you, seeing the disturbing difference between her sweet self and murderous self is utterly...well, disturbing lol I have watched a different horror anime called "Another". I'm not a horror fan at all but I read about the plot and couldn't resist. Kinda scarred after seeing a guy slash himself with a kitchen knife and a girl getting stabbed in the neck with an umbrella but the story was awesome. I loved the mystery behind it plus I loved the main guy and girl :) Would watch it again but I don't want to watch the gore all over again


I absolutely do not like or watch any horror movies at all and so anyone who knows me really well would be surprised that I even watched such a horrible Anime as Elfen Lied because this is just so not like me, seriously. Elfen Lied was even worse then that Anime. People getting their head blasted off and their body blasted up into pieces with blood bursting out, even their hearts and bones. I have to admit that Lucy is a very interesting character and I love her innocent side but dislike the evil Lucy and it was very sad when she killed Kouta's sister and dad. I enjoyed all the innocent parts so much though. Thats exactly how I felt about Elfen Lied. I looked it up and read about it and so many people were telling me to watch it. So I just had to or it would had kept bothering me. I'm not so sure at all I'll ever watch Elfen Lied again although it was pretty interesting but TOTALLY and INSANELY scary and heart breaking close to the end when he realized that she was the one who killed his sister and dad ;-;
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Postby KnightOfFive » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:39 am

Nyu is cute and an understandable draw for the series, I don't consider it a "stupid" reason to watch. That being said, the amnesic "innocence is horribly subverted by her main personality and her insane personality. At the core of it Lucy/Nyu/Kaede whatver you like to call her wasn't much of an innocent in contrast to say... Nana.

Nana is an interesting case of persisting innocence. She's been tortured, experimented on, and later on sliced apart and she never once loses her morality or value for human life. The only reason she didn't defeat Lucy is because she didn't want to hurt her while Lucy had no such compunctions.

Honestly if Nana had been the main protagonist the series would have been more enjoyable(or at least a lot less bloody).
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Postby Nate » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:54 am

Maokun wrote:If you'd like a series with slightly similar themes and treatment but much, much less gruesome, try Mahoromatic. :)

I love Mahoromatic to death but honestly most people on this site wouldn't watch past the first couple of episodes because of the nudity.
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Postby Maokun » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:05 pm

I sure hope not. I may be forgetting some but I didn't think it was excessive nor disturbing. Just classic fanservice fare for series of the turn of the millennium.
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Postby Nate » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:15 pm

The nudity wasn't really disturbing but there's plenty of people who would classify it as excessive I guess, there's enough who would classify even like five seconds of nudity as excessive so oh well.

Oh and don't forget the teacher who's trying to have sex with the main character. That's played for laughs too but some people might not like it.

Look I'm on your side I love Mahoromatic so much it is really a fantastic show. But you've gotta figure on a site like this people aren't gonna take kindly to some fanservice and a closing song singing about boobs.
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Postby Vega » Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:40 am

Well, this is from the perspective of someone who's seen a lot worse than Elfen lied. In the grand scheme of things this is nothing compared to some stuff thats out there. Many could attest to that. From what I've seen the nudity wasn't too excessive and the violence was, as a whole, aiding to the overall feels of particular scenes.

But I agree that the anime lacked quite a bit in comparison to its manga equivalent
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