Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1398784) wrote:Forgive me, but who is Horada again?
This guy.Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1398784) wrote:On the side of the Yellow Scarves, we see an issue. A large group of the gang is no longer loyal to Kida, to the point of ignoring his orders. Just the people who attacked Takeguchi alone represent that much, and its obvious these people also just like violence, and authority, like when they attacked Shingen. They want control, after having had it then losing it following the loss of Kida, and now that Kida is back, he doesn't want to fight the Dollars for control. Neither gang trusts the other, really, and neither leader has much authority. I'm pretty sure both Kida and Mikado know this, which is why neither have really acted on it.
Except that how does opening channels of negotiation NOT lead to further communication between them? The whole reason this is even complicated in the first place is because everyone values their anonymity - something my solution would have settled without compromising.ich1990 (post: 1398785) wrote:While that would be a clever way to solve the current dilemma, it doesn't really solve the problem. The whole reason this gang war started in the first place was from a lack of communication.
blkmage (post: 1398793) wrote:There's a huge risk for Kida to be open if, in the worst case scenario, Mikado actually turns out to be malicious. Sure, he knows what he's like as his friend, but Kida has no idea what Mikado's motivations are as the leader of the Dollars. What's to stop Mikado from using that against the Yellow Scarves if he decides to value the Dollars over his friendship with Kida? In fact, Kida would be even more aware of these possibilities considering he's in the exact same position as Mikado, where he needs to lead a secret double-life. If he can act like a carefree high school student while hiding the fact that he runs a violent gang, why couldn't Mikado?
Fish and Chips (post: 1398796) wrote:Except that how does opening channels of negotiation NOT lead to further communication between them? The whole reason this is even complicated in the first place is because everyone values their anonymity - something my solution would have settled without compromising.
ich1990 (post: 1398821) wrote:If the worst case scenario were to happen and Mikado were to turn against him, Kida would lose a friendship he didn't really have and a gang he couldn't really control.
On the plus side, he would be able to face this new reality knowing that he put himself on the line for his friends and that is through no fault of his own that his relationships were lost. This is a far better result than, say, waiting around doing nothing because you are afraid of what my happen next --which is what he seems to be doing ever since he found out that Mikado is top dollar. What happened to all of that courage he displayed in talking with the van group?
Fish and Chips (post: 1398796) wrote:And I stress - I stress - that the window for this is already closed. This is the sort of thing that could have wrapped things up in episode 18, but episode 20 we're dealing with a different problem. My post was in regret more than anything.
blkmage (post: 1398828) wrote:If Mikado takes an action that benefits the Dollars over Kida, that doesn't mean that Mikado doesn't value Kida's friendship. For all he knows, there could be circumstances under which Mikado would decide that his responsibility to the Dollars is too large to put Kida above. And obviously, also clandestinely leading a gang himself, Kida is aware of all of these choices that Mikado might have to make.
TheSubtleDoctor (post: 1398853) wrote:Two things I think we might be forgetting: (1) Kida has serious emotional problems. He started a gand b/c he felt lonely and like he had no place. Then, as he met people who he formed deep relationships with and who gave him a more preferable sense of place (Saki, then Mikado, Anri), these people, these emotional anchors, became more important in his life. It is understandable if Kida is risk-averse when it comes to losing this existnetial grounding, as he places such a high value on it. Hence, caution is required. Facing a reality w/o that sort of grounding would probably be frightening to him. (2) Kida is still a kid. I did some very dumb things when I was 14/15. Pubescent boys = not always the best descision-makers.
blkmage (post: 1398841) wrote:Your annoyance has to do with the fact that you have more information than he does.
Open communication isn't a bad choice, but it's not the only choice and not the most obviously rational course of action. I can sympathize with his decisions, because if I'm going to rock some boats, I'm going to be extra cautious leading up to said rocking and I want to be sure beyond a reasonable doubt. Or who knows, maybe it's because I am a terrible friend.
Horado just wants to beat people up. I don't think he is really concerned about accidentally hurting the wrong person, so it makes sense that he attacked the first person who matched the description. It was just an unlucky coincidence that he found Anri first, rather than an actual identification.Fish and Chips (post: 1400148) wrote:Also, it appears Anri is the only well-endowed bespectacled female attendee of Raira Academy. I could accept Mikado and Kida jumping to conclusions, they're just worrying in a worst case scenario that it's someone they know - then Horada recognizes her having never seen her before in his life.
ich1990 (post: 1400219) wrote:Horado just wants to beat people up. I don't think he is really concerned about accidentally hurting the wrong person, so it makes sense that he attacked the first person who matched the description. It was just an unlucky coincidence that he found Anri first, rather than an actual identification.
I was wondering the same thing. XD Couldn't help thinking, "You have a weird, freaky love interest, how can I take you seriously?"[quote="goldenspines (post: 1401037)"]Man, I still like this series, but I'm getting depressed. I really hope they can wrap all this up by the end into a semi-happy ending.goldenspines (post: 1401037) wrote:Why is Seiji, the man who fell in love with a head, giving love advice to Mikado?
blkmage (post: 1402019) wrote:It is always a treat to see the entirety of Dollars in action. It kind of reminds me of the Yang fleet in LOGH, motivated by "foppery and whim".
ich1990 (post: 1402091) wrote:And there is no way that Shizuo is going to put down by a shot to the stomach and leg. If he did, I think the whole DRRR world would collapse from the vacuum created by so much awesomeness leaving the universe. It just wouldn't be right.
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