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canadian

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:31 am
by Christianotaku
tokyopop is a distributor in canada and since canadas new anti gay hate laws tokyopop has to rate things with gays in them same as ones without. they can be sued otherwise.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:59 am
by Technomancer
I find that unlikely. First off, bill C-250 has not (as of yet) gone to third reading or a vote yet. Secondly, what the bill actually does is amend section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada which is the section covering hate speech. This amendment simply extends existing hate speech laws to cover homosexuals. Restricting normal religious speech would also bring the law into conflict with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which would trump any such bill.

Also, this is a private member's bill, and it is more than likely it will come to a free vote anyways (ie. party discipline is not enforced).

It should be added that to be considered hate propaganda, the general criteria is:
a)advocates genocide
b)incitement to violence
c)group defamation


Under this criteria, only a bare handful of hate-speech prosecutions have ever been made. In addition, the decision to prosecute in each case must be made by Canada's attorney general.

Some info on the relevant Canadian law may be found at:
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/sf02998e.html

Tokyopop might still decide not to rate gay materials, but it will come down to a business decison, not a legal one.

/*edit: Sorry, application of the law is the decision of the provincial attorney general, not necessarily the federal one (it's been a while since I've had to know this stuff)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:06 am
by Stephen
You mean they might have to warn over homosexual content?!?!? FIDDLE STICKS!:rolls_eye

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:08 am
by Gypsy
Thanks for clarifying that, Techno, much appreciated!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:57 am
by inkhana
Still, one must wonder how long it will be until they ARE rated the same...surely it will happen someday.

ok

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:06 am
by Christianotaku
Ok soory about new subjecti accidently hit new subject button instead of reply :sweat:


first of all i hat homosexaulity i love the people but hate the gayness with a passion


second of all the us constitution says all are eqaul so...............................if a manga has gay love a company would rate it the same as if it had straight love.........otherwise they could get into lawsuits based on the us constitution


PErsonally i thin kwe all deserve the same treatment it may not be good but its true........................


:poke: make a homosexaul friend and lead them to christ!!!!! :thumb: :dance:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:29 am
by Gypsy
Well, in reference to my post about TokyoPop's new mangas, I wasn't trying to come across that they should plaster HOMOSEXUAL MATERIAL across the cover, I was just mentioning to the other members that the rating system was the same for homosexual and non-homosexual content. And don't worry about the new subject thing, Christianotaku. But do it again, and you'll get flogged.:evil:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2003 1:19 pm
by uc pseudonym
Technomancer describes the logical and legal side of things (and does so beautifully, I might add). But since when do people think about logic? In my opinion, it's only a matter of time...