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Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:04 pm
by K. Ayato
Are you a true Believer? Is Jesus YOUR personal Savior? If the answer is yes, then there's no fear of demonic possession. But it sounds like your obsession with this character gave Satan enough room to cause troubles.

Whether spiritual or mental, this isn't something you can face alone. Get in touch with a pastor, a church counselor, or see your doctor and get referred to a specialist. This is outside our area of expertise (aka we can't help you professionally). Knowing there's someone with more experience on your side as you fight your battles is a huge help.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:48 am
by TheChocolateGamer
K. Ayato wrote:Are you a true Believer? Is Jesus YOUR personal Savior? If the answer is yes, then there's no fear of demonic possession. But it sounds like your obsession with this character gave Satan enough room to cause troubles.

Whether spiritual or mental, this isn't something you can face alone. Get in touch with a pastor, a church counselor, or see your doctor and get referred to a specialist. This is outside our area of expertise (aka we can't help you professionally). Knowing there's someone with more experience on your side as you fight your battles is a huge help.


That was actually one of my main questions about this situation. True Christians cannot be possessed by demos, because the Holy Spirit is in them. I agree with K. Ayato about this.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:48 am
by TheChocolateGamer
K. Ayato wrote:Are you a true Believer? Is Jesus YOUR personal Savior? If the answer is yes, then there's no fear of demonic possession. But it sounds like your obsession with this character gave Satan enough room to cause troubles.

Whether spiritual or mental, this isn't something you can face alone. Get in touch with a pastor, a church counselor, or see your doctor and get referred to a specialist. This is outside our area of expertise (aka we can't help you professionally). Knowing there's someone with more experience on your side as you fight your battles is a huge help.


That was actually one of my main questions about this situation. True Christians cannot be possessed by demos, because the Holy Spirit is in them. I agree with K. Ayato about this.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:03 am
by thedragongirl77
I think I figured out what triggered my breakdown. I was scrolling through, falling deeper into the grip of the demon, but as I scanned a post (from someone i follow) about satanism, and the dozens of people who began to support it and say it was good, makes more sense then the bible ect. Is around when it happened. I'm not sure how much of the experience above was real, but I dont think much of it was, although the demon truly made me feel like I was going insane. Maybe I've just been reading too much Frank E. Peretti.... Maybe none of it was real and I'm just crazy and I wasted all your time, prayers and worry. I know I was aware of God during it, and so I started typing on this site. I didn't want my family to hear me so even if I would have been able to I couldn't attempt a self exorcism. I don't think I wanted to, because as I stated earlier it seemed good to me even when I knew.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:04 am
by thedragongirl77
Pertaining to the recent replies that occurred while I was typing that, I don't know if I'm a Christian. I have too many doubts and there seems to be too many options. It's too hard. I know I'm falling so I try and direct my friends toward Christianity even if I'm a hypocrite and won't go myself.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:45 am
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:Pertaining to the recent replies that occurred while I was typing that, I don't know if I'm a Christian. I have too many doubts and there seems to be too many options. It's too hard. I know I'm falling so I try and direct my friends toward Christianity even if I'm a hypocrite and won't go myself.


You definitely need a pastor, who can show you the way. Pray to God to help you in your problems :)

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:58 am
by Masaru
A couple quick thoughts:
Even if you're not entirely sure what happened, don't feel like it was a waste of our time/prayers. It's clear that you're struggling in at least some capacity, and it's okay to need others!

Also, struggling with doubt does not automatically mean you aren't a Christian. As fallen, sinful people, we all are going to struggle with believing God's promises at times.
I'd be happy to talk with you about some of it - I have spent significant time learning about objections to Christianity and how they don't hold up, so perhaps I could potentially be of help.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:33 am
by thedragongirl77
I would like that, Masaru.

After realizing months ago that Seb was unhealthy I tried to ditch him and find another fictional crush to fill the hole he has bore into me. By the time this occurred I didn't even like him as much anymore, but I remembered how good it felt to fantisize and I kept going back. I'm a mess..

I would really like to learn how to preform exorcisms on myself and others to prevent things like this.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:22 pm
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:I would like that, Masaru.

After realizing months ago that Seb was unhealthy I tried to ditch him and find another fictional crush to fill the hole he has bore into me. By the time this occurred I didn't even like him as much anymore, but I remembered how good it felt to fantisize and I kept going back. I'm a mess..

I would really like to learn how to preform exorcisms on myself and others to prevent things like this.


If you come into encouter with a demon, you can only pray to God. That is the only way.

As for Sebastian, this reminds me of what I felt about my ex three years ago. The past feelings about that girl didn't subside easily. But fantasizing about her was useless, because the relationship didn't turn out and it ended. I even went insane once. To forget those feelings look for something hopeful, like God. He can help you and make you more happy than Sebastian, Satan or any demon in this world.

You did NOT waste my time, at all. You made my time precious, because I made a call to help you (I prayed to God). This is not due to obligation, it is because I love you and you being happy makes me happy :)

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:06 pm
by thedragongirl77
I told my friend. He's probably reading this now. I'll tell more friends soon. I'm going to get under control. I don't know what to do anymore. And now I forgot what I was going to type, but i told someone.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:40 am
by thedragongirl77
One important thing I forgot to mention is that I'm 13 years old.
I prayed, I really prayed last night for the first time in awhile. I don't know if you guys believe in direct Angel encounters, or If it was his wishful thinking, but I asked the Lord to protect me from the demons so nothing like this happened again. I asked him to cleanse me and I followed the directions I have always known for being forgiven. Maybe the lord allowed the demons to come to me this time because that's what it took. I submit myself to him forever, and this tme I really mean it. I'm going to turn away from Seb forever now, I'm going to erase all traces of him. I'm going to act. I asked the lord to send an angel or something to directly defend me from them. To wrap his wings around me, if angels have them. I imagined a big beautiful white wing shielding me, and I felt at peace for once. I'm being raised in a very Christian household, as I type this the morning Christian radio turns on. It will be on all day. Bible study at night, even though I haven't done any of it for awhile. I'm stil not going to tell my family or the church. Il be grounded forever for what I've viewed online...sucked into lust and almost satanism. The conversation will lead into confessing my viewing of pornography and cursing all the time.
All I need to deal with this is you guys, in turn the lord, and in the end I'm going to end it myself. I'm going to live a long happy healthy life and an eternity with...my savior. This time I'm going to act, nothing lost in vain. For when I'm in the lowest valleys only means there are towering mountains ahead for me.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:04 am
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:One important thing I forgot to mention is that I'm 13 years old.
I prayed, I really prayed last night for the first time in awhile. I don't know if you guys believe in direct Angel encounters, or If it was his wishful thinking, but I asked the Lord to protect me from the demons so nothing like this happened again. I asked him to cleanse me and I followed the directions I have always known for being forgiven. Maybe the lord allowed the demons to come to me this time because that's what it took. I submit myself to him forever, and this tme I really mean it. I'm going to turn away from Seb forever now, I'm going to erase all traces of him. I'm going to act. I asked the lord to send an angel or something to directly defend me from them. To wrap his wings around me, if angels have them. I imagined a big beautiful white wing shielding me, and I felt at peace for once. I'm being raised in a very Christian household, as I type this the morning Christian radio turns on. It will be on all day. Bible study at night, even though I haven't done any of it for awhile. I'm stil not going to tell my family or the church. Il be grounded forever for what I've viewed online...sucked into lust and almost satanism. The conversation will lead into confessing my viewing of pornography and cursing all the time.
All I need to deal with this is you guys, in turn the lord, and in the end I'm going to end it myself. I'm going to live a long happy healthy life and an eternity with...my savior. This time I'm going to act, nothing lost in vain. For when I'm in the lowest valleys only means there are towering mountains ahead for me.


:n_n:

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:45 am
by thedragongirl77
Thank you, thank you guys so much, I couldn't have done this without you. I could be dead spiritually and maybe even physically without your help. I never cry, I never cried during any of this. But I'm not even sure if I know just how much it means to me, because I can't comprehend it. There's still a hole from Sebastian, but I'm going to have my friends support me and get away from it. I don't need him, I don't..oh crap...What should I do when I want him back? I want to now, please continue praying so I can stop. I'm not going to look at him. I'm suddenly lost. Oh Lord, deliver me..the battle isn't over yet.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:35 am
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:Thank you, thank you guys so much, I couldn't have done this without you. I could be dead spiritually and maybe even physically without your help. I never cry, I never cried during any of this. But I'm not even sure if I know just how much it means to me, because I can't comprehend it. There's still a hole from Sebastian, but I'm going to have my friends support me and get away from it. I don't need him, I don't..oh crap...What should I do when I want him back? I want to now, please continue praying so I can stop. I'm not going to look at him. I'm suddenly lost. Oh Lord, deliver me..the battle isn't over yet.


Try bishounen anime series (which are NOT... you know). What is better: find a real (Christian) boy to fill that hole. This is a hard thing indeed, but it is worth it. Remember, if you find one: no physical things except the universal (hugs, handshake, etc.) before marriage and marriage should be the only goal in your relationship. :)

I will continue to pray for your well being. I will tell you one last thing: the battle hasn't ended

it has only begun...

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:00 am
by K. Ayato
You're 13 years old. There's no need to rush into relationships. Crushes are normal, but they can't ultimately satisfy. That's a role only Jesus can fill 100% and beyond.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:08 am
by TheChocolateGamer
K. Ayato wrote:You're 13 years old. There's no need to rush into relationships. Crushes are normal, but they can't ultimately satisfy. That's a role only Jesus can fill 100% and beyond.


:thumbsup:

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:23 pm
by thedragongirl77
I told three friends. They were pretty much terrified. I don't know what to do now, I told them to pray, read Frank E Peretti's books to know in a simpler sense what happens in the spirit world, and to remind me of this experience in my darkest hour. They were very nice about it. And they believed me and agreed to help me in any way they could. I did I for them too, so they could be aware of what really goes on and become stronger Christians.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:26 pm
by K. Ayato
Frank Peretti's books are fiction. They're not real. While they depict things that are in fact real, it's still part of the author's imagination and you can't treat his books as the authority on spiritual warfare. You need the Bible.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:52 pm
by thedragongirl77
I see your point, but it is quite similar, and my experience matched some aspects of it. I never even knew demons could affect people now until I read it. I never know where to look in my bible anyway for anything.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:20 pm
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:I see your point, but it is quite similar, and my experience matched some aspects of it. I never even knew demons could affect people now until I read it. I never know where to look in my bible anyway for anything.


In the life of Jesus, there are examples of what demons do. Search there.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:59 pm
by thedragongirl77
Did some research and found a real good prayer model. I'm going to try and find help at my church without getting my parents involved. I'm going to find a private place to fully rebuke the demons, and I'm going to search the bible for answers. What else should I do?

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:43 pm
by K. Ayato
Why hide from your parents? True, they may not fully understand what you experienced, but you should at least let them know you're struggling with spiritual issues and think people at this church can help point you in the right direction.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:50 pm
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:Did some research and found a real good prayer model. I'm going to try and find help at my church without getting my parents involved. I'm going to find a private place to fully rebuke the demons, and I'm going to search the bible for answers. What else should I do?


You can't rebuke demons, if God hasn't given you the right to do it. Better ask someone who is called to be an exorcist. It is wrong to say that you can just rebuke demons. There were people in the book of Acts where they tried to banish them, saying "In the name of Christ, get out!" But the demon said: "God I know and Paul I know, but who are you?" and he jumped into them and made them bleed and suffer.

Try to read the Bible carefully, for your own sake.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:52 pm
by TheChocolateGamer
K. Ayato wrote:Why hide from your parents? True, they may not fully understand what you experienced, but you should at least let them know you're struggling with spiritual issues and think people at this church can help point you in the right direction.


Good advice.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:23 pm
by thedragongirl77
Crap, I replied with my reasoning but it didn't send. In short,

No, I won't tell my parents.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:29 pm
by TheChocolateGamer
thedragongirl77 wrote:Crap, I replied with my reasoning but it didn't send. In short,

No, I won't tell my parents.


It will go worse, trust me.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:37 pm
by K. Ayato
They care about you. Trust me. I don't agree with my own parents and we butt heads a lot, but they want what's best. Cut them some slack for not being as well-versed in anime as yourself.

Also, newsflash. If the pastor or counselor feels your struggles are harmful, they will inform your parents. Better to give them (at least) the nutshell version from your own mouth than things get worse and they end up finding out from someone else than you.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:03 pm
by thedragongirl77
That's why I'm reluctant to go to the church. I'm doing this myself.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:32 pm
by Masaru
thedragongirl77 wrote:That's why I'm reluctant to go to the church. I'm doing this myself.


I'm going to echo what everyone else has said here and recommend that you do get help from church. You don't necessarily have to go into detail about the specific experience you had, but your pastor is (at least theoretically) supposed to be there to help with things like struggling faith. We also need our fellow Christians, the body of Christ, for mutual help and encouragement:

Hebrews 10:23–25 (ESV)
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, 25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

Re: Mature prayer topics (older or mature members only, please)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 6:37 pm
by thedragongirl77
I think this conversation is done. Good day, God bless, and thank you.